Post by lirie on Oct 12, 2013 7:17:27 GMT
"Did this last night on our H25m kill. I am a WW by trade, but deep down a tank. It took getting used to saving my Chi so that I had 4 plus Chi Brew ready for when Zen Med fell off on the first Blood Rage, popping dampen harm and Fort Brew, then just standing and using PB whenever is saw my stagger icon. For the 2nd it was a little more hectic, but I got every defensive CD we had in the raid that held me until Zen Med came off CD. With the CD redux trinket and/or Rooks it would be even easier, but as I'm a DPS on 13 of the 14 fights, they are just QoL improvements when the real tanks don't need them.
Overall wasn't hard, most of the problem was the rest of the raid doing what they were supposed to do during blood rage."
"Assuming you have a basic 25m heroic comp this is what I found works fine for me. Obviously you can change this list around for what works best for your raid and your raid comp. ()=Our CDs
1. (Zen the first hit). Smoke, Hand of sac(all pallies)
2. (When Zen falls Rook Trinket, DH, FB, Purifying as it comes up, keg smash as filler)Pain Sup, 2nd Smoke, Ironbark, 2nd Hand, Warr Vig
3.(When DH falls, **Symbiosis SI**, Purifying as it comes up around x5, Guard, Keg Smash repeat) Guardian Spirit, 3rd Smoke, 3rd Hand, Barrier, 3rd Hand
You CANNOT go in with any stacks otherwise it will be a wipe or very close to one
After that last wave of cds the phase should be over and you go back to phase 1."
"Hey,
i solotank bloodrage on 10m HC, we dont have him down yet but 1% wipe... -.- Bloodrage phase is the last problem, i survive just fine most of the time.
I do it in full crit build, you can check my armory below. You dont need any mastery reforge imo but you need proper CD usage...
On normal we only get one bloodrage, but it gets harder if you get 2, the phases are 2:47 apart and last 20 seconds, so i do the following (without CD reduc trinket, with it gets trivial):
- be the offtank before the bloodrage so you dont have stacks, this happens if you DONT start to tank and taunt at about ~12 stacks
- pool min 3 chi, better 5
- taunt if the animation starts, and Zen Meditation before right before the first hit, this is important so you dont get the red stagger from hit1
- after Zen Med is gone instantly Fortitude + Dampen harm, you should still have 5 chi.
- After every hit of bloodrage you purify before the tick hits, instantly and try to keg smash in between for more chi, you purify every second here
- when dampen harm is gone after 3 ticks, pop guard
- phase ends and you should not be in real danger if you do it right.
Now if the second phase starts (without trinket) you Zen Med still has 13sec CD, your Fortitude is not ready. You need to have 5 chi again and call for a external CD right before it starts, afterwards you pop guard and purify every hit like the first time. When Zen Med is ready you use it for the last 7 seconds and you are golden.
Cheers"
"I tank first. We swap at 15 stacks. That has me clear going into the first blood rage, for which I use FB. I sit on chi and purify after every hit. I continue tanking into the next P1 and we again swap at ~15 stacks. For the second blood rage I was planning on only using a PS->barrier+IB and an armor pot with DH/guard/zen med thrown in there, but since single target cds are not being used elsewhere, plus the boss is almost dead, I got a few extra cds on top of that. /shrug. Once it's up I use FB again. It's really really a joke as a monk."
Overall wasn't hard, most of the problem was the rest of the raid doing what they were supposed to do during blood rage."
"Assuming you have a basic 25m heroic comp this is what I found works fine for me. Obviously you can change this list around for what works best for your raid and your raid comp. ()=Our CDs
1. (Zen the first hit). Smoke, Hand of sac(all pallies)
2. (When Zen falls Rook Trinket, DH, FB, Purifying as it comes up, keg smash as filler)Pain Sup, 2nd Smoke, Ironbark, 2nd Hand, Warr Vig
3.(When DH falls, **Symbiosis SI**, Purifying as it comes up around x5, Guard, Keg Smash repeat) Guardian Spirit, 3rd Smoke, 3rd Hand, Barrier, 3rd Hand
You CANNOT go in with any stacks otherwise it will be a wipe or very close to one
After that last wave of cds the phase should be over and you go back to phase 1."
"Hey,
i solotank bloodrage on 10m HC, we dont have him down yet but 1% wipe... -.- Bloodrage phase is the last problem, i survive just fine most of the time.
I do it in full crit build, you can check my armory below. You dont need any mastery reforge imo but you need proper CD usage...
On normal we only get one bloodrage, but it gets harder if you get 2, the phases are 2:47 apart and last 20 seconds, so i do the following (without CD reduc trinket, with it gets trivial):
- be the offtank before the bloodrage so you dont have stacks, this happens if you DONT start to tank and taunt at about ~12 stacks
- pool min 3 chi, better 5
- taunt if the animation starts, and Zen Meditation before right before the first hit, this is important so you dont get the red stagger from hit1
- after Zen Med is gone instantly Fortitude + Dampen harm, you should still have 5 chi.
- After every hit of bloodrage you purify before the tick hits, instantly and try to keg smash in between for more chi, you purify every second here
- when dampen harm is gone after 3 ticks, pop guard
- phase ends and you should not be in real danger if you do it right.
Now if the second phase starts (without trinket) you Zen Med still has 13sec CD, your Fortitude is not ready. You need to have 5 chi again and call for a external CD right before it starts, afterwards you pop guard and purify every hit like the first time. When Zen Med is ready you use it for the last 7 seconds and you are golden.
Cheers"
"I tank first. We swap at 15 stacks. That has me clear going into the first blood rage, for which I use FB. I sit on chi and purify after every hit. I continue tanking into the next P1 and we again swap at ~15 stacks. For the second blood rage I was planning on only using a PS->barrier+IB and an armor pot with DH/guard/zen med thrown in there, but since single target cds are not being used elsewhere, plus the boss is almost dead, I got a few extra cds on top of that. /shrug. Once it's up I use FB again. It's really really a joke as a monk."